Wednesday, January 23, 2008

Can Girls be Violent?


BIG BIG SHOCKING HEADLINE.


Girl cuffed etc. in police cell.


Perhaps at first hysterical glance this appears to be an obvious case of "police brutality."


Perhaps we weren't there.


Perhaps you have never been in the presence of a drunk and violent teenager.
William Glasser, the author of the ground-breaking work, "Reality Therapy," pointed out 40 years ago that the first thing you have to do with an out-of-control person is stop him.
Of course, today in a society soft of belly and brain matter, a society dedicated to the proposition that anything I do is OK, such notions as restraint seem quaint,


Why is this girl suing the police 3 years later?


Perhaps this was a really, really slow news day.

5 comments:

MurdocK said...

There is a difference between 'stopping them' and 'excessive force'.

I have yet to hear of anyone committing suicide with their hands handcuffed behind their backs. However there is a report of one being shot in the back of the head while 'resisting'.

While I agree that some 'force' was needed, once she was back in a little cell why was anything else needed? Like the strap holding her legs tied to the doorhandle? Where is that in the manual? Such things are normally part of torture, not basic prisoner restraint or 'control' issues.

This action being delayed is due to the PARENTS being unwilling to take on the blue wall. Now that she is an 'adult' she can address this herself and I say good on her for pointing out more goon tactics amongst Canadian police forces.

It is my understanding that she was not *intoxicated* at the time she was treated this way, but that - the police unable to find her parents easily decided to send her back to cells. I think a larger question becomes how long was she held in total? If it is more than 12 hours then it becomes an unlawful confinement situation.

Nothing about this case is clean, both sides are showing that they have flaws. The drunken teenager and the police are both in various areas of fault. While I do not mean to appologize for the behaviour of the teen, I do find the police very much at fault for excessive force and potentially unlawful confinment.

MurdocK said...

GLOBBO COP TO THE RESCUE:

While loads has been said about the Manley Panel report about Afghanistan there are other observations about it, they can be found on The Real News

This is nothing more than an excuse for US Marines to go into the area (in large numbers) so that they are 'pre-positioned' for their later role in Pakistan.

The 'other' part of the report said that we (Canada) should leave immediately, unless we get this 'support'.

Therefore the Bush gang of thugs will send in their Marines (so that they will be there so that the next President cannot get out very quickly).

Margolis, in the analysis is very right 400,000 Soviet and Afghan support troops could not 'pacify' the Pashtun lands 20 years ago, what INSANE MORON(s) thought we could do this with 50,000 or so NATO troops?

Oooops I forgot it was Darth Cretinous, PMPM aka MR Dithers and Harpo and the Conformers that thought we could do this!!!

We, CANADA, must get out from Afghanistan IMMEDIATELY any further delay and we will stop even having such truths as what we got from the Manley Panel.

What has struck me is that the "we are winning" garbage that General "scumbags" Hillier was spouting a year or so ago is now been shown to be totally untrue.

NEVER believe what the military spokespersons have to say, NEVER.

Anonymous said...

What this BS is now about is MONEY. Lots of $$$$ plain and simple. The lawyer is greedy, the girl is a basket case and the parents? Is this what we have become? Well enough said.

Anonymous said...

I agree Murdock, well said.

Mo.

Anonymous said...

I'd like to see an in depth summary of what was going on with this girl and her parents at the time of her arrest. Until then, I do not have a definite opinion. I did catch a quick glimpse of the girl's mother on one of the news clips. That is where my questions would be directed. For starters, why was she not finding a telephone (apparently they did not have one in the home) and making calls as to where her 15 year old daughter was at that hour? More questions than answers...